In Carolyn Hax's July 20 advice column,
a reader asks what a lot of folks ask here. She and her husband
originally agreed not to have children. Now she's having second
thoughts. She has a whole script worked out to discuss this with her
guy, hoping maybe he has changed his mind, too, but what if he says he
still doesn't want kids?
Hax asks the reader if she can accept it
if her husband sticks to his no-kids decision. She offers comments from
other readers who have experienced this situation. And one of them
mentions this blog. Whoever you are, thank you. Tell your friends.
So,
people do change their minds. They think they're okay with not having
children, but then everyone around them is having babies, they are aware
that they're running out of time, or they realize they agreed to a
childless marriage just to keep the relationship going. Maybe they
thought stepchildren would fill the space where their own children would
be, but they don't. Am I ringing any bells for people?
Maybe
you're not the one changing your mind. Maybe it's your partner, who
suddenly says he wants kids or that he (or she) has decided he does not
want them. He/she cites money, freedom, jobs, age, bla bla bla.
Where
once you thought you agreed on this huge decision, you don't anymore.
You had an agreement. You knew what you wanted and were living your life
counting on that agreement staying the same. Now what do you do? Do you
leave? Do you urge your partner to leave? Do you get counseling to help
you accept the unacceptable? This is the heart of the whole childless
by marriage concept.
As longtime readers know, this is what
happened to me. I stayed. I didn't have children. I cried where my
husband couldn't see me. I wrote a book about it. He didn't change his
mind. Now I'm a childless widow living with my dog. It's not as tragic
as it sounds. I have a good life, but I still wish I had found a way to
become a mother and grandmother and great-grandmother.
I want to share some comments posted at my old Blogger site that you might not otherwise see:
On July 20, Anonymous said...
In
my fourth year of marriage, during marriage counseling, my husband told
me he never wanted me to have children because of my auto immune
disease. I divorced him because we had agreed on children, we had picked
out names. One unsuccessful relationship after another led to me
missing my window. I never did get to have a child. But I have a stepson
who lost his mother at a young age. We love each other so much. Jumping
in as a parent of a teenager is very hard. But to hear him wish me my
first happy mothers day was priceless, absolutely priceless. My ex has
been married twice after me and he plans on having children. Sometimes I
hate him for what he did to me. But now I have my wonderful stepson who
I never would have met if it wasn't for my ex. My husband now is pretty
awesome too. I love my boys like crazy. So, happy ending!
Yesterday, Anonymous commented:
I
feel like I am the only woman in the world who started out not wanting
children, grew to change my mind, and had my husband on several
occasions scream at me that I can't change my mind. He expects me to be
around and support all of his friends families and everytime, I die a
little more inside. I am scared for my future in aging, lonely, and just
sad I married someone like this.
On July 21, another Anonymous wrote:
I
was lucky enough to fall in love in my mid-twenties with a man who,
like me, was somewhat leaning against having children. I was pretty sure
I didn't want children, having had, since childhood, a feeling that
motherhood probably wasn't for me. But after we married, I wanted to
wait a few years before making a final decision to see if my feelings,
or his, would change. They didn't. What happened next was a series of
vivid dreams in which I would inexplicably find myself six or seven
months pregnant, too late to change my mind, horrified and terrified,
and trying desperately to convince myself that having a baby would be
okay while knowing it would not. At least twice I woke up clutching my
belly. Husband and self are now in our sixties, happily married and
childless. I know that by not having children, we gave up some wonderful
things. And I know my sisters will have the support of their children
as they age, and I won't have that special kind of support. But I remain
convinced that I made the right decision for me, and my husband feels
the same way. My childhood was happy, my mother is warm and wonderful,
and I really can't explain why I knew I didn't want to become a mother
while my sisters wanted to be, and are, great mothers. I do know that
especially after those dreams, anyone who might have tried to persuade
me to have a baby would not have been successful. To the list of reasons
why some people don't want children, I'd have to add "Unexplainable but
extremely strong gut-level knowledge that having children would be a
huge mistake."
I have been in the process of transitioning from one blog host to another. This month, I'm posting the same posts here and at http://www.childlessbymarriageblog.com.
After Aug. 25, the old site will
remain online, but new material will only be posted here.
I
apologize for not posting yesterday, my usual day. I work as a music
director at our local Catholic church and we have a new pastor whose
changes kept us occupied and mind-blown all day. Basically he thinks
this is a cathedral, not a little coastal church, and he thinks it's
1950, not 2015. Think Gregorian chant. In Latin. Last Sunday, he gave a
little speech on the importance of family that let me know he's going to
make it hard on us childless folks because we failed to reproduce. I
can't wait for Mother's Day. Don't share this blog with him! I need my
job. :-)
In a society where parenting is expected, some of us do not have children because our partners are unable or unwilling to make babies. That's what this blog and my book, Childless by Marriage, are about. The book is available now in paperback and as a Kindle e-book. Here on this blog, let's talk about what it's really like.
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Thursday, July 23, 2015
Wednesday, January 21, 2015
Book shows how people can change their minds about having kids
Sometimes it seems like every woman over 30 has kids, right? Well, not always. I'm reading a wonderful true story called Wild Within: How Rescuing Owls Inspired a Family
by Melissa Hart. An Oregon writer and teacher, she was the guest at our local Nye Beach Writers Series last weekend. She is a wonderful writer, performer and teacher, one of those people who just sparkles with life.
Melissa grew up not wanting children. Her childhood, profiled in her earlier book Gringa: A Contradictory Girlhood
, was more than a little unusual and she saw traits she did not want to pass on to another generation. Plus, despite years of babysitting, she didn't really like babies. Her first marriage a bust, she raised cats and dogs instead. One day at the dog park, she met Jonathan, and a romance blossomed. Now Jonathan didn't want babies either. Perfect, right?
Jonathan was a volunteer at a raptor rescue center that cared for injured and orphaned owls, hawks, eagles, kestrels and other wild predatory birds. He was going to school and planned to be a photographer, but the raptors were the center of his life. He soon lured Melissa in to volunteer, too. They fell in love, moved in together, and eventually got married. Together they poured their love and nurturing energies into the birds and their four-legged children. They agreed they didn't want to have babies. Jonathan, plagued infections in his testicles, had a vasectomy. Still perfect, yes?
Well, it was perfect until Melissa met Jonathan's sister's adopted daughter and realized she wanted to have a daughter, too. Nervous about how her new husband would respond, she told him she wanted to adopt a child, not an infant but a girl a few years old who needed a home. He said yes. Now I'm at the place in the book where they're trying to adopt. I can't spoil the rest of the story for you because I haven't read it yet.
But here's the thing. People change their minds, and that's okay. We're human. So many of the people who comment here have experienced that change of mind, either themselves or in their partners, sometimes to wanting a baby, sometimes to not. Problems arise when only one person wants to change the terms of their relationship. Ideally, if you both really love each other, someone gives in and the other accepts the decision. That's so hard. Sometimes it's impossible. But we need to try to be open to each other's changing needs and desires.
And read this book. It's encouraging. Besides, if you don't end up having babies, maybe you could take care of owls or dogs or salamanders . . .
Have a wonderful week, and send me some comments besides the spam I keep getting about magic spells and potions, house remodels and website development.
Time to go walk my dog child before she starts eating the furniture.
Melissa grew up not wanting children. Her childhood, profiled in her earlier book Gringa: A Contradictory Girlhood
Jonathan was a volunteer at a raptor rescue center that cared for injured and orphaned owls, hawks, eagles, kestrels and other wild predatory birds. He was going to school and planned to be a photographer, but the raptors were the center of his life. He soon lured Melissa in to volunteer, too. They fell in love, moved in together, and eventually got married. Together they poured their love and nurturing energies into the birds and their four-legged children. They agreed they didn't want to have babies. Jonathan, plagued infections in his testicles, had a vasectomy. Still perfect, yes?
Well, it was perfect until Melissa met Jonathan's sister's adopted daughter and realized she wanted to have a daughter, too. Nervous about how her new husband would respond, she told him she wanted to adopt a child, not an infant but a girl a few years old who needed a home. He said yes. Now I'm at the place in the book where they're trying to adopt. I can't spoil the rest of the story for you because I haven't read it yet.
But here's the thing. People change their minds, and that's okay. We're human. So many of the people who comment here have experienced that change of mind, either themselves or in their partners, sometimes to wanting a baby, sometimes to not. Problems arise when only one person wants to change the terms of their relationship. Ideally, if you both really love each other, someone gives in and the other accepts the decision. That's so hard. Sometimes it's impossible. But we need to try to be open to each other's changing needs and desires.
And read this book. It's encouraging. Besides, if you don't end up having babies, maybe you could take care of owls or dogs or salamanders . . .
Have a wonderful week, and send me some comments besides the spam I keep getting about magic spells and potions, house remodels and website development.
Time to go walk my dog child before she starts eating the furniture.
Wednesday, May 21, 2014
Should you gamble on a partner who says he or she doesn't want children?
Back in my grandmother's day, things were pretty simple. You grew up, got married and had babies. Period. No birth control. No legal abortions. No vasectomies or tube-tieing. The only people who didn't have children, aside from priests and nuns, were the ones who were physically unable. And everyone pitied them. "Oh poor Aunt Martha, she couldn't have children."
There was no choice, no changing of minds, no "do you want to have children?" "Let's wait until we have more money" or "I don't think I want to have children." People just had babies, and if it made their lives more difficult, if taking care of the kids meant sacrificing something else you would have liked to do, tough.
Sometimes I wish we were still back in those days. With all the sex my first husband and I had, I'd have at least three children now, maybe more because we might not have gotten divorced. I'd still be attached to a husband who drank too much and didn't believe in monogamy. Instead, we split up, and I married Fred, who was the best husband ever, except for not wanting to have children with me. Did it turn out for the best? I think so.
Every day I receive comments from readers struggling with the baby question. In many cases, they and their partners completely agreed when they got together about having or not having children. Then either one of them changed their minds or one of them proved to be unable to make babies. And now they don't know what to do. They're broken-hearted. They're talking about breaking up, but they're still in love and don't know if they'll ever find a better mate. I don't know what to tell them. Things happen. People turn out to be infertile. People who said they didn't care about having children suddenly realize that they can't bear living their entire lives without experiencing motherhood or fatherhood. People who thought they wanted children discover they really don't.
What it comes down to, I think, is making a commitment to another person and sticking to it, no matter what. Relationships are a gamble. Marriage is a gamble. He/she might die, might get sick, might get fired, might not be able to get pregnant, might decide he'd rather have a puppy. People change their minds. If you truly love that person, you don't leave when things get tough. You talk it through and find the best solution for both of you. When it comes to having children, if one wants them and one doesn't, somebody's going to get hurt. So the question it always comes down to is: Is this person worth taking a chance?
What do you think? Please post your comments. I'm running out of answers.
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